What’s the Big Deal with ‘Country Counting’ Anyway?

What’s the Big Deal with ‘Country Counting’ Anyway?

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I don’t always come into contact with other frequent travelers on the road, and when I do, the topic of ‘country counting’ doesn’t come up. Until last week when I was in Belize and happened to take a day trip to Guatemala with a bunch of frequent travelers, including a pair who worked at a ski resort 6 to 8 months a year and traveled the rest of the time.

Travel blogging doesn’t always lend itself to interviewing or conducting field research, but on the two hour or so drive, I felt like I had an opportunity.

“So, do you know how many countries you’ve been to?”

I tried to pose the question as innocently as possible to the ski resort pair. They didn’t know I was a travel blogger, and I didn’t offer up the information because we were at the beginning of the tour and I didn’t want special treatment from the guide. Although I had already planned to write about ‘country counting’ for the blog.

After a brief moment of thought, one of them suggested, “Maybe somewhere in the 30s?”

I would venture to say that visiting 30+ countries is something not attained by most people. As we passed our passports to the front of the van for processing at the Guatemalan border, theirs bulged with the extra pages displaying all of the places they’ve transited.

But here is the other key piece of information. They didn’t talk about all the countries they’d visited or how many new ones they would see this year, but instead waxed philosophical about how they loved southeast Asia and it was a destination they’d returned to again and again.

This is in stark contrast to the travel blogging world, when someone’s number of countries visited serves as some sort of “street cred” (aka credentials) of how experienced they might be, or perhaps how trustworthy with advice.

When I started out blogging, I noticed it in people’s Twitter or Instagram profile. I followed suit and added it to my Pinterest page description. As you can imagine, there are also travel bloggers that are vehemently opposed to country counting because of what it represents. To each his or her own.

Country goals

There are plenty of people though, from infrequent tourists to backpackers to business travelers, who engage in ‘country counting.’ For some, it’s not a constant tally, but an occasional check-in, depending on the goal.

I’ve heard it all in terms of goals: visiting 30 countries by the age of 30, making it to 2 new countries each year, or just using the number as a motivator to travel more. Apparently there’s even an app for that. Or rather several apps, that typically use a map feature to shade in and track where you’ve visited.

And for the really ambitious, there’s the Travelers’ Century Club (TCC). The TCC was founded in Los Angeles, California in the 1950s and – you guessed it – membership is open to those who have visited 100 or more countries.

Why ‘country counting’ is so complicated

Of course, “been to” or “visiting” can mean many things.
Does transferring at an airport count?
What if you go through customs and leave the airport?
Do you have to spend the night?
Stay for 24 hours?
Have a meal?

By the way, those aren’t random questions. All of them are criteria I’ve heard floated by friends and other bloggers as to what you might have to do for a country to “count.” Or for those counting US states or Canadian provinces or Italian regions as they try to visit each one.

As for me, I only know the number of countries I’ve been to because I sat down and made a list last year, thinking that it would help to mention it to be considered a travel blogging authority. At the time I started the blog, I had been to 45 countries, which I mentioned in my very first welcome post on the blog.

Although interestingly I don’t know – off the top of my head, anyway – how many of the 50 US states I’ve visited, although it’s quite a few. (Maybe I’m somewhere in the 30s?)

Hidden in my number of 54 are a few quick passes through places, like…

  • brief jaunts into Montenegro and Bosnia on day trips during my 2007 road trip
  • the overnight I spent sleeping at the Kuala Lumpur low-cost airport terminal in 2012, although I did have to get my passport stamped and I exited the terminal once for a brief stroll
  • my day trip to visit the ruins at Tikal in Guatemala last week, starting and ending in Belize
Tikal, Guatemala
Tikal, Guatemala

Also hidden in my number, which seems to be toward the high side for bloggers, is the fact that I’ve never been to South America! Although I’ve traveled a bunch in the Caribbean and Central America. And racked up quite a few extra countries while living in Europe and visiting micro-nations like Andorra and Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and San Marino, Monaco and Vatican City.

Monte Carlo, Monaco
Monte Carlo, Monaco

It sure sounds impressive to say that I’ve lived in 4 countries on 4 continents (which is true!) but really I just keep going back to those same continents for travel as well! And no, I don’t count my few days into the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt as visiting Africa, although you might consider that to technically be the case.

Mount Sinai, Egypt
Mount Sinai, Egypt

See how complicated this all is?

But wait, here’s the other kicker of a question. How many countries are there in the world?

There are some people who aim to visit every country in the world. Although I’m not one of them, the question of how to know when you’ve visited them all is not so straightforward.

How many “countries” are there?

You would think that knowing how many countries there are would be a simple question, but it is anything but. How to decide?

Probably the first thing most people think of is to consult the United Nations (UN) membership as a guide. There are 193 UN member states. OK, so there is our number: 193.

Vatican City Holy See 20150928_092351

But wait, what about the Holy See (Vatican City, pictured above) and Palestine, both of which have official UN observer status. So, there are 195 countries in the world?

Well, not so fast. Taiwan is not a member of the UN at all, due to ongoing disagreements with mainland China. And certainly most people would consider it a country. New tally: 196.

Or how about Kosovo? Following conflict over its status after the breakup of Yugoslavia, Kosovo declared its independence in 2008, which over 100 countries have recognized. But it is still not part of the UN. And we’re at 197.

There is still Antarctica, which is a continent, but has no country based there. Can you visit a continent without adding to your ‘country count’? Or what about Hong Kong & Macau, which are Special Administrative Regions of China?

Interestingly, the Guinness Book of World Records put the number of “sovereign nations” at 196. The most recent (and fastest) person to achieve the feat of visiting them all, American Cassie De Pecol, brought recent attention to ‘country counting’ with the goal of visiting every country. It took her just over a year and a half.

The TCC country and territory list takes things to a whole new level and lists 325 places! Based on their own definition, of course.

What about me?

Personally, I think you need to clear immigration and step foot in a country for it to count, so by that measure I am technically at 54 countries, although it really feels like 53 since I left the Kuala Lumpur airport oh-so-briefly during my overnight layover. I didn’t actually see or do anything there. Except take this picture:

Overnight at the KL Low Cost Carrier Terminal. Not sure how people think they'll be able to bring a crate of live chickens as carry-on. Several goats as well.

How did my count get so high?

A few factors, really. It was Caribbean vacations with my family & a few well-planned trips over the years that included several countries each & living in Europe for 3 years where things are so darn close together.

“Oh, you lived in Europe for 3 years, you must have been everywhere!”

That’s something I hear a lot, but I didn’t even come close, despite my many trips to micro-nations. I only made one foray during that time into Scandinava (Stockholm for TBEX, a travel blogging conference), and there are other places that lots of people have visited that just haven’t happened for me. At least not yet.

Like Portugal. Or Ireland. Or places I would love to get to this year like Malta & Georgia.

Some would call me well-traveled (and I think I am), but not because of my country count!

Some parting thoughts

What I can say? Yes, I’ve been to a lot of countries. I’m not an expert on everywhere, but I have done enough travel to offer advice and tips on mistakes to avoid and how to do it well. Which is why I started a blog =)

For the places I have been, I typically do a fair bit of research before going. Then I take good notes on what I’ve seen, done & enjoyed, and can share my best tips for those destinations with you!

And this whole ‘country counting’ business? I like numbers, and it’s certainly something interesting to think about for your own travels. But at the end of the day I’m much more concerned with what type of travel someone has done than how many places they’ve visited necessarily.

  • Did you savor great street food, seek out haute cuisine, or eat what’s most convenient at the moment?
  • Did you plan ahead of time or travel spontaneously?
  • Did you join organized tours or do your own thing?
  • Did you visit places where you know locals or went somewhere you have no connection?

These are some of the many ways to frame travel, and they’re certainly not mutually exclusive. I travel in lots of varied ways depending on the destination, budget, and my traveling companions. There is no one right method, although in its own way my number does tell a story – of the clustered travel I’ve done around countries where I’ve lived, and how much of the world is still left for me to explore.

A particular travel count is not a goal of mine. (It never even occurred to me to try to visit 30 countries by the time I turned 30!)

And I don’t know that I’ll want to go to every country someday like some of those world record holders.

But I do want to explore new places, re-visit places I’ve been and loved, and take some travel savvy with me when I go.

Happy travels!

Lana

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Do you know your country count? Or your count of provinces or states where you live? What does it mean for you and your travel? What do you need to do in a place for it to make it onto your list?

And do you have any goals around your country count? Like visiting 40 countries by the time you’re 40…or 100 countries in your lifetime? I want to hear all about it!

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14 thoughts on “What’s the Big Deal with ‘Country Counting’ Anyway?

  1. Great post, Lana! I’m with you in saying that the whole ‘country counting’ thing can definitely get out of hand. Unless you’ve been traveling non-stop for 30+ years, I’m not sure how you could reasonably visit over 100 countries and truly understand/appreciate them.

    I too lived in Europe (Italy and Germany) for a good number of years, and rather than heading to a new country every chance I got, I instead focussed my efforts on seeing the more obscure (but no less interesting) places in the area. So yes, I’ve still not been to Portugal or Norway for a weekend, but I’ve had a relaxed glass of wine and a good meal in almost every small town in Tuscany!

    1. Thanks so much, Andrew! Yes, you could definitely spend a lifetime just in Italy’s small towns, I’ve had a blast doing that, too. As long as you’ve been enjoying whatever travel you do, the country count itself doesn’t need to be a goal all on its own. Thanks for reading =)

  2. Hey Lana,

    I think you should count only “significant” visits. It depends of course at the country (or city).
    I’d say even a minimum of a few days for most countries. I mean, can you say that you “been” to Canada if you just crossed the border at the Niagara falls?
    My “count” is at 34 I think, with the only borderline is a full day at Zurich (between flights).

    1. But that’s exactly it, Gabby, what counts as “significant”? In the end, I think it is up to everyone to judge for themselves. That’s a lot of countries, keep on traveling!

      1. For sure significant is very personal. I guess 1 day in Andota might be enough, but a day in NYC can’t be enough to say “I have been in the USA”.
        I am trying to stay as much as I can in every place. Been two months in New Zealand, a month in Nepal. Just came back from two weeks in Iceland. I think that only after a long stay you can “understand” the country. The culture, the food… really speak to people there. And that is the purpose of travel for me.

        1. It sounds like you have embraced the idea of slow travel, how amazing to have the time to spend in each of these places. Certainly even if you claim to have been somewhere you popped into for a brief amount of time, I doubt anyone would claim to “understand” a whole country in that amount of time – not even the European micro-nations! Hearing about others’ experiences, I have respect for the super quick travelers who spend 1-2 days somewhere and move on, those who spend a month or more (like you, it sounds like), and those like me who mostly fall somewhere in the middle. Any travel expands horizons, and the more people do the type of travel they enjoy, the more they get out there…

  3. I had visited 40-50 countries and had decided I wanted to visit 100 countries before I died. Every year I travel to Asia and Europe and have made dozens of trips to Africa. I started country counting as an effort to scope out where I wanted to spent more time and bring my family. It’s not so unusual to start keeping track of how many you’ve visited. I’ve found a lot of value in being driven to visit places I would have never considered visiting. Now that I’m at 163/193 or 163/197 or over 200 on the TCC I still visit a lot of the places I’ve already been, but also think a lot about places I’ve never visited. I’m on a pace of somewhere around 10 new countries per year with plans to visit all the UN before I’m 50. I’ve learned a TON about the world’s cultures, architecture, history and appreciate foods from all over the world. Travel is amazing and my favorite hobby.

    1. Joel, travel is definitely my favorite hobby, too! That is quite a quick pace to be visiting new spots, I only managed 10+ new countries a year when I was living in Europe and so many spots were both close and inexpensive to reach. What spots have been your favorites?

  4. I always love reading these overviews of the counting country community. It is always fun and there is no right answer that everyone will agree to.

    Coming from the Counting Country community, I would like to point out one major benefit is it forces you to visit countries you would never think to visit. So for example, I doubt I ever would have visited Eritrea, but I ended up going for two weeks and had an amazing time! A great undiscovered country with barely any visitors.

    1. That sounds like an amazing trip, Gaz. I’ve been to Kenya and hope to visit more of east Africa someday soon. If country counting inspires people to visit new, off-the-beaten spots, it’s a worthwhile exercise in my book.

      Happy travels and happy country counting!
      Lana

  5. Hello Lana!
    So I was basically just bumped into the “country counting” thought, just out of curiosity. Unfortunately, ! do not have all my stamps on one passport, so i had to do a real cleanse through my brain as to remember all the places I have been.
    As doing so I found the same conundrum as you, How do I know what to count?, Does vatican city count ? , if so HOW MANY COUNTRIES EXIST AT ALL?
    And I said well google must know, and that is how I stumble upon your blog.
    I am currently 27 years, i have done all sorts of traveling ( planned trips with family and visit various countries in a day or weeks; the solo traveler; the spontaneous one )and to me they all counted because I give meaning even to a few hours on port. I love to experience the slow travels like one comment pointed out, but I also have very good memories on short visiting trips that have impregnated my heart , so I decided to count the ones that count to me .
    Did my math, 22 is my number so far, I’m currently 27 years old, and for the love of it I want to reach the goal of 30 before my 30s !
    Hope I can make it, and will definitely keep reading your blog for tips or isnpiration !
    Thankyou !!
    Greetings from Mexico

    1. Hello Rox, and congratulations on 22 countries! I think it’s nice to have travel goals, and 30 before 30 is a great one to keep inspiring you to explore. It’s all about what is meaningful to you and making memories. I’m so glad you took the time to comment, and happy travels!

  6. Interesting stuff here. At age 77 I’ve stayed in 42 countries for at least a week and some (USA) for months, not in one hit obviously. Hotels, home hosted (see Friendship Force International) and some working but mostly for the pleasure of travel meeting people. Transits not counted include Andorra while moving from Spain to France and several unforgettable 20 hour stints in airports like Helsinki. Love the experiences and won’t chase the numbers.. Hoping to continue.

    1. Thanks, Robi. It sounds like you’ve had a lot of adventures and how interesting to measure which countries you’ve stayed in for at least a week. I may have to do some re-counting!

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